How critical is the 2.5V cut-off voltage for Li-Ion battery life?
How critical is the 2.5V cut-off voltage for Li-Ion battery life?
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2.5V is the lower limit of the cut off voltage of most lithium ion cells, excluding LifePO4 and LTO cells.
It doesnt really matter if it goes down to 2,5V, but how long it stays below 2,5V, or even worse, 2V.
The max limit for any lithium ion cell is 2V. Below 2V, it becomes critical to charge the cell with a lowest current possible you can use, being 50-100mA.
Otherwise, internal chemical and structural damage can happen very quickly if you charge it too rapidly when below 2V.
This is the reason many chargers now have recovery modes when the cell voltage is too low: if they detect that a cell has too low of a voltage to charge it, they will enter a special low current mode, and when it reaches 3V, it will resume normal charging.
I know this isnt exactly what the OP is asking for, but Ill just expand on the above a little bit.
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I was reading though the spec sheet of the Samsung ICR-30Q cell, and noticed something interesting on their recommendations for pack design.
Samsung specifies Under 1.0V voltage, do not charge the cell. They list 1.0v - 3.0v as Voltage range of cell which shall be charged by Pre-charging (charge slowly, I presume). 2.5v is the recommended low-voltage cut-off, and 2.0v as shut down your BMS.
They dont mention any length of time a cell can sit near 1.0v. I find it interesting that they say its okay to charge a cell above 1.0v. Previously, Ive only seen the 2.5v low voltage cut-off mentioned.
Cutting off at 2.5v may just be a way to make sure the cell stays above 1.0v, if its left sitting awhile to self-discharge.
Anyway, at least for the 30Q, it appears that cells are dangerous only if discharged below 1.0v.
But, yes, if its below 3.0v, charge it slowly until it reaches that threshold. Most chargers will do that automatically. And if its below 1.0v, especially if its sat there for awhile, maybe its best to throw it away. This applies to the 30Q cells, so Im not sure if other cells are the same.
If you look at a lot of high drain cells they go lower then 2.5 look at the he2, he4, hg2 data sheets LG gets there mah by discharging down to 2.0v
And the 25r data sheet has pulse discharge graph cycle life going down to 1.5volts and like 60 amps. Ill say it again like I always do randomly on some of these threads. Lithium should be respected. But the danger is overrated. Ive recovered around 200 cells 1.5volts or lower out of tool packs. Ive had some cells die completely but that was it no vent no nothing just stopped working shows no voltage and wouldnt charge maybe 5 or 6 cells have died all the others I used until the capacity just got to low for my use. Whenever I recover deeply discharged cells I bring it up really slow its like 20 or 30mah once it hits 2.5 to 3v I hit it with 1 amp and check back every 10 mins or so. If it gets hot it goes back to recycle and Ive only had a few cells I was worried because of heat during charging to er on the side of caution some you can tell a difference between just usual warm and when a cell has really high internal resistance. These new cells need around and over 400 degrees to 450 degrees to explode. And also when the batteries were assembled they had no charge. Who knows how long they sit before the factory gives them that initial 30 percent charge
They can sit at 1volt for a long time. Ive found packs that have had to be sitting at .5 or 1 volt for several months maybe a couple years from the looks of it and the cells are fine. Actually seem to retain a good amount of capacity being in low voltage. I just found a 30q in a tomo I lost around 6 7 months ago. Last Friday it appeared. The powerbank was completely dead before it was lost Well it has parasitic drain. All the batteries were around 1.1 volts. It recovered to capacity and 49 mohm resistance according to my opus thats before subtracting 30 like the manual states Ive had some evva s drained down to 0 volts twice for a couple months in a light that shouldnt have drained them. And I was able to recover the full capacity twice. The major risk was with the old lipo cells. Everything for the last several years is a hybrid cell. Theres always a slight risk, but I use a lot of cells and I take my chances since the failure rate is below .% for the big 4. Now Chinese cells can be just as good or horrible. A lot of Chinese cells dont have ptc and or cid. Unprotected cells already have 2 means of protection built in. To much current ptc kills the cell, to much heat and pressure cid ruptures cell dies. Theyve kind made it idiot proof even with unprotected cells as much as they can. Keep away from fire and dont carry loose in a pocket. And youll probably never have a issue. Never had a lithum cell vent. Ive had nihm cells vent good cells like imedion less then 30 cycles and on a moonlight mode after about 5 seconds.
Reasons for self-discharge of lithium batteries
There are two reasons for excessive self-discharge of lithium batteries: physical micro-short circuit and chemical reaction. Two reasons will be analyzed below:
1. Physical micro-short circuit
The physical micro-short circuit is the direct cause of the low voltage of the lithium battery. Its direct manifestation is that after the battery is stored at room temperature and high temperature for a period of time, the battery voltage is lower than the normal cut-off voltage. Compared with self-discharge caused by chemical reaction, self-discharge caused by physical micro-short circuit will not cause irreversible loss of lithium battery capacity. There are many situations that cause physical micro-short circuits, which are divided into the following categories:
a. Dust and burrs
When we disassemble the battery with micro-short circuit, we often find that black spots appear on the separator of the battery. If the position of the black spot is in the middle of the diaphragm, then there is a high probability of dust breakdown. If the black spots are in the majority at the edge, it is caused by the burrs generated during the pole piece cutting process, and these two points are easier to distinguish.
b. Metal impurities in positive and negative electrodes
In batteries, metallic impurities undergo chemical and electrochemical corrosion reactions and dissolve into the electrolyte:
M Mn+ + ne-;
Thereafter, Mn+ migrates to the negative electrode, and metal deposition occurs:
Mn+ + ne- M;
As time goes by, the metal dendrites continue to grow, and finally penetrate the separator, resulting in a micro-short circuit between the positive and negative electrodes, which consumes electricity continuously, resulting in a decrease in voltage.
Positive electrode metal impurities
After the charging reaction, the metal impurities on the positive electrode also break down the separator and form black spots on the separator, causing a physical micro-short circuit. Generally speaking, as long as it is a metal impurity, it will have a greater impact on the self-discharge of the battery, and generally the single metal has the greatest impact. According to some documents, the order of influence is as follows: Cu>Zn>Fe>Fe2O3. For example, many cathode iron-lithium materials will face the problem of excessive self-discharge, which is caused by excessive iron impurities.
Anode metal impurities
Due to the formation of the primary battery, metal impurities in the negative electrode will dissociate and deposit on the diaphragm to cause the diaphragm to conduct and form a physical micro-short circuit. Some low-end negative electrode materials in China often encounter such a situation. The metal impurities in the negative electrode slurry have less influence on self-discharge than the metal impurities in the positive electrode, among which Cu and Zn have a greater influence on self-discharge.
c. Metal impurities in auxiliary materials
For example, metal impurities in CMC and tape
2. Chemical reaction
a. Moisture
Moisture causes the electrolyte to decompose, releasing a large number of electrons, which are then embedded in the positive electrode oxidation structure, causing the positive electrode potential to drop, resulting in low pressure;
In addition, when there is H2O in the battery, it will react with LiPF6 to produce corrosive gases such as HF; at the same time, it will react with solvents to produce CO2 and other gases to cause battery expansion; HF will react with many substances in the battery such as the main components of SEI, destroying SEI film; generate CO2 and H2O, etc.; CO2 causes battery expansion, and the regenerated H2O participates in reactions such as LiPF6 and solvents, forming a vicious chain reaction.
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The consequences of SEI film damage: 1), the solvent enters the graphite layer and reacts with LixC6, causing irreversible capacity loss; 2), repairing the damaged SEI consumes Li+ and solvent, which further causes irreversible capacity loss.
b. Electrolyte solvent
Adding some electrolyte solvents will cause the voltage of the battery to drop too quickly. I tried a solvent before, and the ion conductance was significantly improved after adding it, but the self-discharge rate was 3 times faster than normal solvents.
Possible mechanism: These solvents are not resistant to oxidation, and a slow chemical reaction occurs during storage, which consumes capacity and causes a voltage drop.
c. SEI film is unstable
During the storage process, because the warehouse has a certain temperature, it causes the SEI film to fall off and re-react, resulting in battery flatulence, low pressure, etc.
d. Poor packaging
The position of the tab is over-sealed, which may cause corrosion of the tab and consume low voltage of the lithium source. If other positions are over-sealed, the electrolyte may corrode the aluminum foil through the CPP layer, causing the aluminum-plastic film to perforate, and water entering to cause low-pressure flatulence.
Many times, flatulence and low voltage appear together, and at this time they are often more serious, and the battery will eventually be scrapped.
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